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 Post subject: Ideas to improve the server & activity! (Maybe)
PostPosted: 14 Sep 2021, 10:59 
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Hello Everyone,

In the beginning, i would like to talk a bit about the server and mention few things i noticed while being active for 2 months after a long break from the game! ( Hisoka / Roy here )

First of all the server isn't a new player friendly at all.. i have only been able to be active in the server thanks to few friends of mine helping me with gear and items ( SADEK , 220volt , and Daner ). Honestly without their help i might have stopped playing again! as i still don't own even a fully maxed character with items that i own myself, even tho i was farming none stop for the first few weeks.
Why? because farming is a tedious process in a server focused on pk!
yes getting a tier item is quite easy than what it used to be back in the days, and easy monster zone helps. However, it doesn't really help with pking which is the server peak fun and focus! for a new player 15 min of easy monster zone can get u 50-100m coins + items, but what would that do as 1x +1 warimas costs 15 gold bars.. and to have a chance in CZ then 3k hp scroll is a must so that means i need to spend 1 hour in easy monster zone just to have that scroll.
and to have a chance in CZ as a new player, we can only use warrior to pk and pray to have a party with priest to stand a chance! any other character without maxed gear is basically a MOB in cz that gets kicked from a party for being an easy target.. and farming in bifrost is not easy easier as sometimes i used to get attacked by other maxed players or other nation bps farming there but that's how the game is i guess! but spending 10 mins to reach ashiton spot only to die there and be forced to spend another 10 min to get back there for a chance to farm or not is a game quitting process since that's one of the only things a new player can do to gain something from spending their time farming!
Achievements are a great addition too but they are like 80% pk based which is really not easy to do due to the server activity and weak items circumstances.

Therefore i would like to suggest few things based on my observation and point of view:

1- lower nps lost upon death in cz & adream to 10-20 nps and have an auto active hour twice a day where u dont lose any nps upon death!
Why? people leave CZ or adream because they don't like losing too much nps due to ( unbalanced nation, unbalanced team, lack of command ). Pking seems boring at times because of that! the tedious process of "adjusting" the party due to the other nation brought 2-3 INT priests kills the fun to be honest! why people don't get to play the character they really want to play simply because they choose a chance to win over their own fun?

2- Archer is a dead class? why? it is really fun to play as archer but we cant even chase someone and they eventually heal and town due to Dark purser nerve. it deserves a boost again! ( Justice for Archers ). Back in the day archers were insanely strong because of Hero bows, but they don't exist anymore. Every character can be considered "OP" due to some circumstances, For example: 1- a full mage pt in csw or adream! why mages aoe don't get nerfed too? Sins win wars because of drains! why they don't get nerfed too? and so on! but after all it's up to the players choices and what character they like to play, and it's unfair to make a class have no chance to enjoy pking with.

3- Increase the ability to town from 50% to 80% HP. why? people would start utilizing mage character more rather than trying to always have a warrior party with 2-3 int priests which is really boring.. and with the nps upon death decreased it won't be as repellent to die, and instead of the whole party going to town when their support die, it would be a live together or die together sort of deal :D

4- When i started playing i heard about an NPC that gives a rental gear ( full +2 accessories ) for new players? where did it go? Bring it back and even increase its ability! instead of having it only once make it free for the first time and if we want to receive the items again, then we need to pay like 50 gbs. why? it would increase new players activity in the server! jewels will be none tradable of course and have a time limit of 1-2 weeks? sounds good and a fair deal for new players to be honest..

5- Increase the drop rate of silver bars from lord draculas & EMZ.
6- 10%-20% chance of Gold bars to drop from atross or burning heavens?
7- Gold dog ( Or dragon! XD ) Drop increased? and please remove the valk part certificate from it or make it valk set for example with same drop rate.
8- BDW? why is it always dead? because players would stand no chance if one side have an int priest! i don't know if its a possible solution but why not change BDW event to be a survival mode instead of nation vs nation? for example it will be a battle royal system and prizes vary for the top 5 players! and instead of each player spawning with their own character, i suggest to create a new character ( or model ) to spawn with in this event that all registered players would be using? and have its own skills or abilities that people need to utilize and learn? sounds like a fun idea to me. ( and prizes vary from 2x bdw +1 to first place and 5th place get 5x gold bars.. just examples :P )
9- Chaos event? is it possible to happen?
10- Creating an event for legend parts too?
11- make scrolls cheap from sundries? its a pk based server, we don't need to have a lot of farming factors in it ( yes farming gbs to buy scrolls ) i even see tp scrolls & lion scrolls in sundries in some other servers and it sounds like a fun idea. ( not a really important idea i guess :P )
12- pathos gloves and wings? where are they XD any chance to ever have them?
13- Decrease the spawn time of mobs and bosses in cz? you guys would say its not a farming server, but why punish players for being active? and spending time in bowl with nothing to do due to the other nation inactivity? we all have our own lives and things to do, but instead of spending half of the time i could be online doing nothing, it's better to kill mobs.. no? :P
And so on..
but after all its a pk server.. and to be a pk server we need players to pk with ( bringing new players rather than making them quit )
and before people comment about the 1st suggestion for the lower nps as they might say ( the game is the game.. everyone must have something to gain and something to lose ) and so on.. as i see alot talking in discord about ( its pk server not farm server ) but why is it only a pk server when either side must have an exact setup to be able to play or win? why can't everyone join a party with whatever they want to play and still be able to have fun?

Anyway i rambled on for long :P
Feel free to comment or post more suggestions! but the point is something need to change to bring the Fun to the Max too.. :)

Have a nice day everyone, and a nicer day to those who spend their time reading it all.. XD

Peace. 8-)


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Hey Roy,

Thanks for this. Let us (MAXKO Team) check each points here.

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Hey Roy,

Thanks I agree with you, they also want H items to come, old players can make a contribution, please take them into consideration for the server, maxko team, we love you very much, don't break us...


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16 points :o … okay let me try to reply :mrgreen:

I think this server is very beginner friendly!
Can start pk with max level and starter gear in a few hours!

If we make it even easier…most farm would become pointless (please check point 4 )

1. on old KO people did get 50NP per kill and loose 50
We already changed this ratio. You gain more NP (80-120 depending on Prem and Bonus) per kill. In Adream death NP loss is already reduced.

2. Archer isn’t a dead class. Don’t overlook that along with the small nerf of DP the lvl 85 shot got fixed.
If a int Priest isn’t db Archer hits about 600dmg, that’s about the same that a warrior hits…but warrior has to get close for this! Plus the fact that Archer got the typical Rogue advantages like LF, cure, minor, styx, high cancel rate and the strong 5/3 combo.

We did always adjust things on server if we see a class dominating or destroying pk.
Mage and Archer is kinda special in this regard, they can easy destroy any melee pk and make people leave – but there was already other topics about this.

3. Many times we got asked for the opposite! To remove town or make it 30%...
Cause many people find it annoying that the “town” button exists.
I think 50% is okay like it is.
4. we removed the rental system since it caused several problems.
If people already had gear, they couldn’t replace/delete those rental items. So they had to ask GMs to do it. Same happen if people wanted to class change. Sometimes people got bug cause of this.
Its much better system now that people can easy farm their basic jewels for whatever class they want to try.
Check the difference between BDW ER +1 and lillime+3 or ROF+3 and Primas+1
Its neglectable… some even say that beginner jewels are to good!
I saw a Sin with beginner jewels beating many other full geared sins and I also saw a noob warrior (like Fexson) beating some full geared warriors.
For BP and Mage its bit harder that’s true, cause they rely more on full gear…but I played those classes with beginner jewels and did pk and it wasn’t bad at all. IMO we should not buff those beginner jewels more, cause else no one would farm for better gear anylonger.

5+6. There is several ways to gain coins. From red dogs, Dracula, Gold Dog, CentaurCaptains, cz Bosses. If we increase the rates on these…we will make easy/hard monster zones less attractive!
Since many people go there to farm coins.

7. will change this.

8. BDW is dead for several reasons.
BDW ER and certificates did drop in HMZ and BDW Earring is cheap in PUS
So people didn’t see a need to go BDW.
Beside this…BDW is a “stresstest” for Priests and not many Priests want to go there.
Another point. Some players don’t like to play with “randoms” and that’s why they don’t join BDW.
we might consider a better reward (two medals? ) to make BDW more attractive.

9. I hope so. But that’s up to Flegy – so feel free to PM Flegy directly about this.

10. Legend parts are a luxury that no one really needs (if you consider stats)
So I think we keep that PUS only – if people support server, they can get this special item.


11. Most scrolls are cheap at Sundries. Only the 3k scrolls are expensive.
Many people have tons of Ruby coins in their Inn…and we want them to burn some coins.
New players might consider to get those from votes (or drop or Adream crystal )

12. Pathos gloves work different in this server version, so I think we wont have them here.
I think there is a visual patch for wings and gloves (check download section) – if you want that.

13. BK already has a short spawn time.
But since the cz bosses drop NP and some real good items, we have to be careful not to be inflational with them.

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Thanks for your reply and the time it took you to do so Anduin, much appreciated :D

well lets see..

1 - about death nps, i just wanted people to stop giving up so easily when the odds are against them.. because let's face it everyone just loves to gain and not lose! so it might increase cz activity? i was hoping so but don't know anymore..
2 - i was planning on starting to pk with archer.. will see how it goes XD
3 - the 80% hp i meant that under 80% are not allowed to town! im not sure about the 30%, but removing it doesn't make sense because sometimes people just have to town and leave.
4 - oh i see, i understand the issues.. hope one day it would return
5+6 - ya, i stand corrected about this, as i was able to gain 11gb in 3-4 hours from easy monster zone alone.. i was being lazy before as it seemed a boring process to go through, but nothing a good playlist can't fix :lol:
7 - yay :D
8 - is the idea itself about a BDW battle royale imaginary? or impossible to do tho? because of game version etc?
9 - Will do, hope he replies XD
10 - true, i get that.
11 - i don't know if its me slacking, or everyone else been playing for so long XD.. but alright.
12 - well about that, it just feels like the active players are being punished for others inactivity sometimes.. i believe everyone would agree that we need something more to do in cz! at times we just sit down doing nothing till next spawns.. not denying the fact that it's because of server current imbalance ( too many orcs active and different time zones etc ) but "inflational" of nps or items i assume? well i think those who are online and putting time in and effort deserve the increase.. ( maybe reduce the drop rate slightly on bosses to avoid a market change :roll: )

Anyway, i was just sharing my thoughts and i will contact u on discord if i have more ideas hehe :D

thanks & and keep up the good work 8-)


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Im agree with u bro
Can we get 2 hours on bifrost too i think 1 its too low for farm frags and gems at least


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